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PATFIELD: Alma… Appendix 6

The "Patfield" section of this site is in memory of my mother, Alma Maud STRONG (née PATFIELD). It is not intended to be a full account of the PATFIELDs, since this is covered by other publications. My narrow focus is on our part of this family. Please read in sequence by following the links at the bottom of each page or use the "Quick Nav" at top right. If you wish to select individual chapters, please click on the top left link to the "Sitemap" page. Note that it is intended that the chapters develop the story of our family and appendices will contain supporting data. The section is integrated with the Photo Gallery: “Alma PATFIELD… her father's & mother's lines.” This gallery illustrates Alma's early German heritage, her grandparents, parents & siblings, and her own life. Note the styles: links to individual images: …#2 ; citation of sources: ^…2)

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Search for g-grandfather Henry John LINDEMAN Junior

NOTE: This search was time-consuming and interesting but proved to be wrongly directed since the old people were wrong and Dora ROSE did not have illegitimate children to Henry John LINDEMAN Junior. This was shown by DNA matches to Edward MAHER described in Chapter 5. Perhaps even the LINDEMAN family thought Henry was the father? The following account is now presented for historical interest.

My mother told me my first bit of information, when she told me with great confidentiality that her grandmother Dora had an affair with one of the Lindeman sons from a nearby property and that her mother was illegitimate. There was no more information from my mother… for instance, no mention of her German ancestry, which was not surprising since we had just emerged from WWII at that time. As a little boy, this information was just absorbed and remembered with wonderment. Since we were a non-drinking family, the significance of the Lindemans was not apparent… though “illegitimate” was perceived as something doubtful and to be avoided! ^…4). My mother was a CofE minister's wife.

When I retired in 1995, my granddaughter asked me questions about my family and I started to seriously research my family history. One of the first certificates I obtained was a transcription of my grandmother's birth. Even at that early stage in my research I had worked out that the only way to get the records behind the records was to use a transcription agent who was not bound by the Registrar's official political correctness.

Transcription of Birth: Alice Maud ROSE. *Reg# 1878/20013.* Date of birth: 16 Jan 1878. * Birth place: Orindinna. *Name: Alice Maud ROSE - elder of twins, illegitimate. *Father's name: NOT LISTED.* Father’s occupation, age and birthplace: NOT LISTED. *Date of marriage, place, previous issue: ALL NOT LISTED. * Mother's Maiden name: Dora ROSE. * Mother’s age: 18. * Mother’s birthplace: Orindinna. * Informant: Mother. * *Accoucheur Nurse / and/or witness: Mrs Dora ROSE. * Registered: 18 Feb 1878, Paterson. * Comments: Minnie ROSE- Younger of twins. * ^…5)

I started a long lasting correspondence with Olga Marquet of Paterson ^…6), where we exchanged information and started rewarding discussions. Olga's letters usually had many pages and usually contained a huge amount of information. In 1999 she introduced me to Anthony J. (Tony) BENHAM of Glenmore Park ^…7), who gave me a ream of printout (old-fashioned tractor-feed pages) of descendancy reports for the ROSE & MARQUET families. I entered the relevant information into bound booklets in full academic style, which I sent to Olga. She forwarded my ROSE booklet to a ROSE historian, Beryl DAVIES of Maitland (d. 2013) who reviewed my work, and then kindly forwarded her ROOS and MARQUART German documents and translations through Olga. Olga took issue with my open disclosure of illegitimacy in our family which made me put any thought of publishing this work on the back-burner… out of a deep respect for Olga. Perhaps Olga represented my mother, Alma, in her attitude to illegitimacy. Olga has since died and I asked her son if he had any objection to me using Olga's material and he has approved my use. Perhaps we live in modern times where attitudes have changed on the human condition? Consequently I went ahead with this project.

Surprisingly, after all this introspection, I found that my mother's secret was out and well known anyway! It had already been published in Robert SOPER's book with inaccurate detail!

Robert Soper. The Dorset Sopers. Pompacalie; 2012: 186. “An interesting, if uncorroborated, story runs in this family about Dora ROSE. On arrival in Australia her father Johaan, worked for Dr Henry Linderman on his vineyard and it is there that young Dora grew up. Whilst there in her teens she became pregnant and gave birth to twin girls. It was always understood that the father of those girls was one of Linderman’s son but Thomas took them on board and they were brought up with the Soper name. The girls were called Minnie and Alice Maude. What happened to them we do not know.” Note: consistent bad spelling^…8)

Leonard ROSE's family lived at ‘Orindinna’, employed by John Glennie, and the LINDEMANs on the opposite W bank at ‘Cawarra’. See the ‘Cawarra’ photo above.

Research Methodology

Investigation was independently made on two fronts…
(1) DNA matches with direct LINDEMAN descendant (unavailable when my mother told her illegitimacy story).
(2) a historical study of the most likely LINDEMAN candidate for my g-grandfather.
 
Note: It was probably common opinion among the associated families of ROSE, PATFIELD, PRESLAND, SOPER that the father of Dora's twins was a LINDEMAN. Henry John LINDEMAN (Jnr) and his family may have believed Henry was the father, resulting in Henry leaving town in the middle of Dora's pregnancy (see the account below).

DNA Match

I was looking for a LINDEMAN match with my sample. A search was made for a direct descendant of Henry John LINDEMAN (Snr)'s children who has taken the AncestryDNA test with a linked public family tree. Two hopes: (a) a false negative would not be caused due to an unknown extramarital event preventing the transfer of LINDEMAN genes through the generations. (b) a false positive would not be caused by another unknown family related to me in a contributor's tree.

Results:
Descendants of son Herbert William (1859-1915)
(a) Descendant of Herbert's son Robert Ainslie LINDEMAN & Evelyn Nea Ernestine ALDERSON.
False positive due to Evelyn descended from my 3g-grandfather John SMALL (1761-1850)?
(a) Descendant of Keith Meredith LINDEMAN brother of Robert Ainslie.
Negative match.
 
Descendants of Charles Frederick (1854-1932)
(c) Descendant of Charles' son Frederick Harold
Negative match
(d) Descendant of Marjorie Florence sister of Frederick
Negative match.

Looks as if I am not a LINDEMAN!

Historical study

Which LINDEMAN could have been the father?

See the thumbnail image of the LINDEMAN sons below…#26, which is the closest I can get to seeing my g-grandfather. Jack Sullivan published this photo of the sons^…9) and kindly had a long conversation with me about which son could have been at ‘Cawarra’ to have been the father. No definite conclusion was possible.

Remember: Click on these thumbnails for full images with text,
OR click on the text link to the image eg…#26.

I examined the relative probabilities of the various LINDEMAN sons conceiving the ROSE twins about 16 Apr 1877. Their [ages] at this time are: Arthur Henry[30]; Sidney Alfred[25]; Charles Frederick[22]; Herbert William[17]; Henry John[15yrs 11 mos], b. 6 Jun 1861. Dora ROSE’s age at that time was [17yrs 11 mos], b. 19 May 1859. The criteria used were age, amount of time living in ‘Cawarra’ and respect shown by the family. The three elder brothers were discarded because of their age… Arthur managed ‘Cawarra’ by 1874, was appointed magistrate in 1878; Sidney was independent of ‘Cawarra’ and his income was more than the others by a long way. In 1873 he was appointed clerk I/C printed papers of the Legislative assembly with annual salary of £250.^…64) Sidney had chosen early withdrawal of his part of his inheritance when he left the family wine business.^…66) Charles was ultimately responsible for the wine operation in Sydney NSW. All were important and respected by the family. This leaves us the two youngest sons. Herbert appeared to be the preferred son and Henry John LINDEMAN (Jnr) marginalised, shown by Henry John (Snr)’s plans for his succession during 1879 etc:^…9)

Henry Lindeman, who was now getting on in years, decided to take three of his sons into the wine business, these being Arthur, Charles and Herbert. Arthur, residing at ‘Cawarra’, would be responsible for the wine production at 'Cawarra', while Charles on the death of his father would ultimately take over the management of the company in Sydney, with Herbert dealing with the quality control of the product (taster).^{…9) pp 284-285.}

Henry leaves town:

Here is a most significant event! Henry John LINDEMAN (Jnr) (b. 6 Jun 1861- d. 22 Apr 1911) left town at least by Oct 1877 at the age of 16½ to enrol at Sydney Grammar.^…63) Was this coincidental and unrelated to Dora ROSE's illegitimate twins? At this stage Dora was 6 months pregnant with twins and subject to much local gossip! Henry was sent to stay at the ‘Ellalong’ Holden-steet Ashfield home of his older sister Louisa Florence LINDEMAN who had married George Mackenzie HOLDEN (1841-1881).^{…9) p288} Henry enrolled at Sydney Grammar School in Oct 1877 and then left school in Sep 1878 and did not serve out his full school year.^…63) Henry may not have stayed long with his sister, since George HOLDEN died unexpectedly from erysipelas^…83) on 25 May 1881^…82) and Ellalong house…#32 and extensive grounds were subdivided and offered for sale shortly after, on 10 Sep 1881.^…84)

Click on the “Ellalong” thumbnail below for a full image with text.

Henry’s law career:

Henry John (Snr)’s intentions were made plain at his death in 1881. Henry John (Jnr) was excluded!

Henry John (Snr)’s Will left everything to his wife with a letter advising her to leave all to Arthur, Charles and Herbert and to make provision for giving Henry (Jun) his profession "he being a boy in a lawyer's office at the time".^{…9) p.289.}

Henry John (Jnr) then remained in Sydney from that time as a law clerk. When Henry was under 21 he would have been a junior clerk. He would be required to serve 5 years as an articled clerk when he turned 21 as requirement for his eventual admission as a solicitor, aged 27, on 22 Sep 1888† in the Union Bank Chambers Hunter-street Sydney.‡^…61) He served under his articles of clerkship to Melbourne John Macnamara (1858-1903) the senior partner of Messrs. Macnamara and Smith, solicitors, (of London Chartered-chambers at Cnr of George-street and Jamieson-street Sydney.)^…76
Notes: † The Law School of Sydney University commenced as a teaching institution in 1890.
    Henry's academic qualifications were obtained through the Solicitor's Admission Board.
    ‡ Location of prominent law firm Minter Simpson.

Henry was then listed in the Sands Postal Directories in the Sydney CBD as Lindeman H.J. solicitor in 1890 at 91 Pitt st; 1894 at 80 Pitt st; 1898, 1899, 1900 at 114A Pitt st; no entries after that.^…75) He advertised his law practice in 89 Pitt St in 1892.^…77) Henry also worked in suburban Sydney in 1894, shown by twelve  advertisements from Feb to Jul in that year for F.W. O'Brien & H.J. Lindeman, attorneys, solicitors, proctors and conveyancers, George St Parramatta. (Next to Tattersalls Hotel).^…59) There were no further Parramatta advertisements, indicating this venture failed… at the peak of the Great Depression in Australia. The 1901 Census then lists a H. Lindeman (ours?) in a shop at King St. West Sydney.^…79) Henry's attempts to establish himself appeared scattered and ultimately unsuccessful.

Henry’s death:

Henry's only other Sydney real estate mention relates to a burglary of his probable duplex lodging house at Petersham. This burglary on 6 Mar 1911 indicates Henry's financial status and gives a contributing reason for his subsequent state of mind at Orange. £41 in 1911 is worth about $1,330 today, though his jewellery might have a far higher value? The Police Gazette describes:

Burglary of home of Elizabeth Brown, 2 Frederick-street Petersham. The sum of about 10 shillings. Also stolen, same time and place, the property of Henry John Lindeman. A gent’s large, single-stone diamond ring, claw setting in platinum, with screw in back to convert into a smaller stud; an oblong pearl scarf-pin, dumb-bell shape, with a gold band around centre, attached to pin; a gold screw-stud and pin combined, with two heads, one set with an opal and one with a tourmaline; a small green-stone dress stud; and a small silver stud; total value, £41.^…80)

Next month, Henry (Jun) committed suicide at Orange NSW from an overdose of a narcotic, probably morphia, on 22 April 1911. Due to his prominence as a "brother of Messrs. Lindeman, the well-known firm of wine growers"^…55), his death was reported in at least 16 metropolitan and regional newspapers, ^{…55), 56)} and was also the subject of a 2 day inquest. ^{…57), 58)}

The Sydney Morning Herald said on 24 Apr: “DEATH FROM MORPHIA POISONING ORANGE, Sunday. Harry Lindeman, solicitor, was found in a dying condition in an empty building in Clinton-street yesterday. He left a letter which is believed to give the address of relatives, and stating he had taken morphia. He is a member of a well-known vigneron family.” ^…62)

A Dubbo regional newspaper was able to give more local information with both names and surrounding circumstances relating to Harry's death:

Supposed Suicide at Orange. A sensation was caused in Orange on Saturday morning when it was made known that Mr. Harry Lindeman, solicitor, had been found in a dying state in a building in course of erection for Mr. Roberts in Clifton-Street (actually Clinton-street). The discovery was first made by some young men working on the building, who believed the unfortunate man to be intoxicated, and left hlm lying there. Later another man saw him, and believing him to be dying, sent for the police, but before a constable arrived Mr. Lindeman had died from the effects of poison. He was seen on the previous morning at Messrs. McLachlan and Murray's office , and agaln in the evening In the Club Hotel, but was not seen again until he was found dying next morning. He had been staying for some time with Mr. Macready, but as that gentleman is about to leave Orange, Mr. Lindeman had been caring for himself. This it seems preyed on his mind, and possibly prompted the rash act. ^{…67), 78)}

Henry may have been associated with McLachlan and Murray Solicitors… John Charles McLachlan (1842-1918), Eldon Chambers 170-174 Lords Place, (cnr Lords Place & Kite St) Orange) at that time.^{…11), 67)}

Henry’s friend McCready:

Who was his friend Macready and what was the nature of his relationship with Henry? His death certificate says that 31 year old Edward James Henry McCready died of TB on 3 Jan 1911 at Lords Place Orange, a bricklayer, was married with 5 and 1 year old children. ^…73) The above newspaper account was wrong when it said (above): "that gentleman (McCready) is about to leave Orange". Another paper gave further detail saying he died at the residence of Miss Farrel, Lords Place^…69) which was the Occidental Hotel, corner Lords Place and Kite Street, Orange, owners Nick Farrell and Mrs Farrell.^…70) Edward's granddaughter said that he was a miner and that he did not die in his wife's home. She also said: "my Grandfather’s wife Florence Evelyn McCready and their two daughters Evelyn and Margaret were also staying at the Occidental Hotel when my Grandfather became so ill and were still there when he died."^…71) This explains why Edward's death certificate was complete with his family details.^…73) Edward's death from TB was at a time when there was no  real understanding of TB, apart from providing fresh air exercise and good food in sanatoriums. No progress up to 1943, when streptomycin was isolated, marking the beginning of the modern era of TB!^…74)

Henry’s burial:

Henry was buried in the Church of England Cemetery, Orange, in F section, plot #44… a small section immediately facing the front boundary of the cemetery and Lone Pine Avenue,^{…60), 65)} and near the front bottom corner of the cemetery. See photos above. In spite of extensive coverage of his death in the newspapers, he was apparently buried in an unmarked grave! Henry's section F contained 70 graves and only 4 had a headstone^…60) Section F was created in about 1910 when the road alignment was changed and it did not have any special purpose for paupers etc. Note, it is possible that the lack of headstones was due to both vandalism and the policy in the 1960's of removing damaged headstones.^…60)

In the early 20th century people who took their own lives were commonly buried outside cemetery boundaries in unmarked graves. However, Henry's suicide may not have prevented a headstone, since he was buried within the cemetery boundaries and received a burial service by the Rev H. Walker Taylor, Church of England Minister.^…58) Canon Hugh Walker-Taylor was the rector of Holy Trinity Anglican Church Orange (1909-1927).

Transcriptions:

At the moment there are Family Trees on Ancestry which are very confused about Henry John LINDEMAN Junior. Hopefully the two full transcriptions^{…58), 81)} below will help the Tree owners with definitive information.

Harry J. LINDEMAN Register entry: Registers of Coroners´ Inquests and Magisterial Inquiries. Note: … the State Archives tell me that associated inquest papers for 1911 have not have survived. We are fortunate that we still have newspaper accounts of this event… see above.

1911. No. 433. Name of Deceased: Harry J. Lindeman. Date when held: April 24. Ct. H. (Court House) Orange. Coroner or magistrate before home held: E. Marriott. Date when received: April 26. Age: 46. Where born: N.S. Wales. Locality of death: Orange. Verdict: Death was caused by a narcotic poison, probably morphine, self administered. Cash or Property possessed by Deceased: Nil. Medical… Doctor’s Name: C.B. House. Whether ‘Post Mortem” held: No. Remarks: Intemperance. Coroner 29.4.11. DP 2.5.11. ^…81)

Henry John LINDEMAN 1911 Death certificate.

NSW-Transcript Death 1911: Henry John LINDEMAN 1911. Reg# 1911/6930. * Date and Place of Death: 22nd April 1911, Clinton Street Orange Municipality. *Name and Occupation: Henry John LINDEMAN Solicitor * Sex and Age: Male 46 years * (1) Cause of Death: Narcotic poison probably morphia. Self administered. Inquest held at Orange on 23rd and 24th April 1911 by Ed. Marriott Coroner * (1) Name of father: Henry John LINDEMAN (2) Occupation of father: Wine-grower. (3) Name and maiden name of mother: Eliza Harriet BRAMHALL. * Informant: Certified by Ed. Marriott Coroner Orange * Particulars of Registration: Illegible, 26th April 1911, Orange * (1) When buried: 24th April 1911 (2) Where buried: Church of England Cemetery Orange (3) Name of Undertaker: F. Ford * (1) Name of Minister: H. Walker Taylor (2) Religion of Minister: Church of England (3) Witnesses of Burial: James A. Watts, George Kendall * Where born: Gresford NS Wales How long in the Australasian Colonies or States: — * Not married (1) Place of Marriage — (2) Age when married: — (3) — * Children of marriage: — *^…58)

Henry’s Death… a summary:

What actually happened to Henry? In the absence of the “Inquest Notes” we can only suggest a mixture of facts and conjecture. Henry had an unhappy life detailed above. Immediate events now had an effect on a probable continuing depressed state. On 6 March 1911 he lost his jewels in a burglary. He lived with his friend Edward Macready who was dying of TB. On the morning of 22 Apr 1911 he was in the office of the local solicitor McLachlan and Murray… was this an unfavourable interview? He then went to the adjacent Club Hotel (now the Hotel Canobolas) at 248 Summer St, Orange. Henry may have also had an alcohol and morphine abuse problem. He then left the hotel (with closing hours of 11:00pm) to a public park where he could use the illegal morphine. If he travelled directly west along Summer St he would reach Cook Park where Summer St is on its N boundary, after only travelling 4 blocks. That night he may have felt unwell and cold in Orange’s weather and found an empty building in Clinton St on the E boundary of Cooks Park. He was found dying in that building the following morning of 23 Mar 1911. By coincidence the Coroner Edward Marriott lived at “Roslyn” 25 Summer Street, Orange, opposite Cook Park and just around the corner from Clinton St where Henry died.

Where to now?

It‘s a wise man who knows his own great grandfather! Oral history from the LINDEMAN family might lead to a specific conclusion about Henry John LINDEMAN (Jnr) and the illegitimate twins Alice Maud ROSE and Minnie ROSE. At the moment there is only circumstantial evidence, family legend and three negative DNA matches.

Note: On 6 Mar 2024 there is a notice on a WikiTree profile for Henry John LINDEMAN (Snr):
“No known carriers of Henry's Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA have taken yDNA or mtDNA tests. No close relatives have taken a 23andMe, AncestryDNA, or Family Tree DNA "Family Finder" test.” How valid are WikiTree comments?

Henry John LINDEMAN Junior remembered?

Lindeman Wines currently market “Henry John Junior's Chardonnay… rich and luscious Chardonnay has flavours of clean peach and stone fruit with a rich soft finish.” I wonder if the company knows who Henry John Junior was? I wrote to them without receiving a reply!

 

Sources… “Search for g-grandfather Henry John LINDEMAN Junior”:
 
4)     Oral history given by Alma STRONG to her son Philip.
5)      Birth of Alice Maud ROSE. *Reg# 20013/1878. Registrar of BDM, NSW.
6)      Olga Irene Mary (Olga) MARQUET (née WILSON) of Paterson.
      Pers. comm. from about 1997 until her death in 2013.
 7)     Anthony J. (Tony) BENHAM of Glenmore Park. Pers.comm. about 2000.
8)       Robert Soper. The Dorset Sopers. Pompacalie; 2012; 186. “An interesting, if uncorroborated, story runs in this family about Dora ROSE. On arrival in Australia her father Johaan, worked for Dr Henry Linderman on his vineyard and it is there that young Dora grew up. Whilst there in her teens she became pregnant and gave birth to twin girls. It was always understood that the father of those girls was one of Linderman’s son but Thomas took them on board and they were brought up with the Soper name. The girls were called Minnie and Alice Maude. What happened to them we do not know.” Note: consistent bad spelling.
9)       Jack Sullivan. Dr Henry Lindeman and Cawarra, Gresford (Part 1). Paterson historical society: 2014; 287, 131.
11)     Greville's Official P.O. Directory of NSW 1878-79.
55)     Supposed suicide. Leader (Orange); 22 Apr 1911: 2.
56)     Solicitor's death. Daily Telegraph; 25 Apr 1911: 6A .
57)     Harry J. LINDEMAN. Registers of Coroners´ Inquests and Magisterial Inquiries, 1908-1913: 1911, no. 433.
58)     Death of Henry John LINDEMAN. Reg# 6930/1911. Registrar of BDM, NSW.
59)     Advertisement.O'Brien & Lindeman, attorneys, solicitors, proctors and conveyancers.
F.W. O'Brien & H.J. Lindeman., George St Parramatta.The Cumberland Argus and Fruitgrowers Advocate;24 Feb 1894:4.
60)     Orange Council cemetery records.
61)     NSW Law Almanac for 1911.
62)     Death from morphia poisoning. Sydney Morning Herald; 24 Apr 1911: 10.
63)     SGS Liber nominum 1857-1913 Sydney Grammar School: pg 170. See here. ( .pdf download)
64)     Appointment of Sidney Alfred LINDEMAN, Clerk I/C printed papers. NSW Blue Book; 1876: Part II: p 11.
65)     Map of Orange cemetery. Orange City Council. See here. ( .pdf download)
66)     Robin Osborne-Smith (granddaughter of Sidney Alfred LINDEMAN). Pers. comm. 2020.
67)     Supposed Suicide at Orange. Dubbo Liberal and Macquarie Advocate; 26 Apr 1911: 2.
69)     Death of Mr McCreadie. The Leader; 5 Jan 1911: 2.
70)     Occidental Hotel. The Leader; 31 Jan 1911: 3.
71)     Pers. Comm Beverley Singlehurst. 2021.
73)     Death of Edward James Henry McCready. Reg# 2693/1911. Registrar of BDM, NSW.
74)     Streptomycin. TB online: Website of the Global Tuberculosis Community Advisory Board.
75)     John Sands Ltd. Sydney, Suburban and Country Commercial Directories. (Postal)
76)     Henry John Lindeman. Declaration ofintention on 19 Sep 1888 in the Supreme Court of NSW that
     he will apply to be admitted an Attorney, Solicitor and Proctor of the Supreme Court of New South Wales.
      Daily Telegraph 20 Sep 1888: 3.
77)     Advertisement: Solicitors Henry J. Lindeman, 89 Pitt-street. The Australian Star; 17 Jun 1892: 2.
78)     Morphine. Wikipedia. See here.
79)     Australia Census 1901.
80)     Burglary. New South Wales Police Gazette. 15 March 1911: p.103 .
81)     Harry J. LINDEMAN. Registers of Coroners´ Inquests and Magisterial Inquiries,
      1834-1942->1908-1913->1911, no. 433. Source: AncestryCom and not via the NSW State Archives website.
82)     Death George Maclenzie HOLDEN. Sydney Morning Herald; 26 May 1881: 1.
83)     G. M. Holden, solicitor, died from erysipelas. Riverine Grazier; 4 June 1881: 2.
84)     Ellalong House & grounds, Ashfield: to be sold on the ground, 10 Sep 1881; NLA. See here.

 

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