FOSTER of Launceston, Australia, Chapter 9.
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Associated family: McNEIL.
Why McNEILs? The association with the FOSTER family.
Our Thomas FOSTER married Grace McNEIL. Grace was the daughter of John and Jessie McNEIL (née McLEAN). This chapter describes details of the McNEIL family, starting from Jessie McNEIL (née McLEAN. Details of Jessie’s McLEAN family are in chapter 10; and details of Thomas and Grace FOSTER are in chapter 8.
Janet McNEIL (née McLEAN)…
Jennet (Janet / Jessie) McLEAN was born on 17 Jun 1834 in Tobermory, Isle of Mull, Scotland. She emigrated on 27 Sep 1837 from Isle of Mull at the age of 3, on the ship 'Brilliant'. Janet died in Mantle Hill, Moruya, NSW, on 4 Jul 1915; she was 81.The informant was W. Thomson (son-in-law) of Mantle Hill Moruya (at whose home she died). Buried on 5 Jul 1915 in C of E Cemetery, Moruya, NSW. Janet’s precise date of birth has been derived as follows: the year… from the age given by Janet’s parents at the time of her immigration; the day and month… from Janet’s family bible, which also confirmed the place of birth of Tobermory.
On 22 Jul 1855 when Janet was 21, she first married J/ix) John McNEIL, son of John McNEIL, in Red Bank, Manning River District (Near Taree NSW). John was born abt 1829 in Nova Scotia, North America according to his death certificate. J/x) He immigrated in abt 1852 at the age of 23. John’s death certificate says he was in NSW for 30 years, presumably from 1852-1882, since he was married in 1855 at Red Bank Taree NSW. John died in Taree NSW Australia, on 19 Apr 1882; he was 53. His occupation was a farmer when his children Grace and John were born and a carpenter when he died. They had 11 children.
Where did John McNEIL come from? His death certificate said his birthplace was "Nova Scotia". On the birth certificate of his first son John J/xi) the location given by the local (Irish?) constable (Dennis Collins) seemed to be "Pickton, Scotland"! A search for "Picton" / "Pickton" in Scotland failed. Returning to Nova Scotia… a search was made for "Picton" / "Pickton" in Nova Scotia. This search failed, however, there was a "Pictou" in Nova Scotia, a town and a County which had many Scottish early settlers! On re-examination of the birth certificate, the terminal "n" in the apparent "Picton" is in fact a definite "w". Thus we have "Picktow"… a phonetic spelling by an Irish constable of how he heard a Scot who pronounced "Pictou" in 1860. I have corresponded with Richard MacNeil, who was born in Co. Pictou (a Pictonian). Richard said the present-day pronunciation of Pictou is "PICtow"… the Irish constable was right! This was further confirmed in the spelling of "Picto" in the birth certificate of his youngest child, Priscilla Harriet… this time the informant was "Jennet McNeil, Mother".
He also confirmed that Nova Scotian birth and marriage records do not go back to the date of John McNEIL’s birth in 1829. He said that there are possible ways around this in records of monumental inscriptions, farm histories, estate papers, land transactions…
Pictou is a local service centre for surrounding rural communities as well as being a primary tourist destination in Nova Scotia. In the past, its port was the receiving point for many Scottish immigrants moving to a new home in northern Nova Scotia and Cape Breton Island following the Highland Clearances of the late 1700s and early 1800s. Consequently, the town’s slogan is "The Birthplace of New Scotland"; the first wave of immigrants is acknowledged to have arrived on September 15, 1773, on the ‘Hector’. J/xii
On 22 Dec 1882 when Janet was 48, she second married J/viii) Delamore WYNTER, son of Lieutenant William WYNTER (R.N.) (1786-9 Oct 1853) & Elizabeth DUKE (1783-9 Aug 1869), in Christ Church, Sydney, NSW. Delamore was born in 1817 in Plymouth, Devonshire, England and died in Taree, NSW, on 28 May 1894 at the age of 77. He was buried on 28 May 1894 in the Taree Estate Cemetery, Taree NSW. Delamore was the first Chemist in Taree, NSW, and he built his pharmacy and residence on the block facing Victoria St and between Fotheringham Park and Commerce St. His father was the founder of Taree, and his brother-in-law Henry FLETT was responsible for the subdivision of the "Tarree Estate" which laid out the streets of Taree city. J/vii) There were no children to this marriage.
John McNEIL was variously described as a farmer and a carpenter, who lived at Krambach, in the Taree NSW area. John died at Taree on 19 Apr 1882; he was 53. J/x)
Did John have any other family in Australia? An obituary is reported J/i) in the Macleay Argus concerning a Kempsey John McNEIL who closely compares with "our" Taree John McNEIL! Unfortunately the Kempsey McNEIL did not have details of his parents in his death or marriage certificates and his birthplace was either Canada or a blank! J/xiii) Notwithstanding, perhaps the two McNEILs were related? See the table below:
| John McNEIL | Kempsey | Taree | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| DOB | c1828 | c1829 | ||
| Immigrated from Nova Scotia | c1862 | c1852 | ||
| Occupation | Shipwright | Carpenter | ||
| Death | 1902, Kempsey | 1882, Taree | ||
Our John made himself significant to his McLEAN in-laws at their Oxley Island farms (near Taree on the Manning River). He was described as: "Name of Undertaker: John McNEIL In Charge of burial" for three McLEAN in-laws. J/ ii, iii, iv)
Janet died on 4 Jul 1915 at Moruya NSW. J/v) Her obituary iv) said: "DEATH— On Sunday morning last sat the residence of her daughter, Mrs W. Thomson, Mrs Wynter, a native of the Manning River, passed quietly away at the advanced age of 78 years. The deceased had been a sufferer for the last 5 years from rheumatism, during which time she was tenderly nursed by her daughter, with whom she has resided for 9 year, but the ultimate cause of her death was due to heart failure.
Deceased leaves four sons and five daughters, all, with the exception of Mrs Thomson, residing on the Manning River. The remains were interred on the following day in the C. of E. Cemetery, the Rev Mr Rix officiating at the graveside."
Brief Descendant Report
John and Janet McNEIL had the following children:
i. Grace (1856-1944). ii. Mary Ann (1859-1935). iii. John (1860-1930). iv. Allan (1862-1927). v. Neil (~1865-1946). vi. Annie (Ann) (1865-1937). vii. Janet (1867-1949). viii. Eliza (1869-1958). ix. Elizabeth Sarah (1873-1948). x. Alexander (Alick) (1875-1948). xi. Priscilla Harriet (1877-1878).
i. Grace McNEIL
See chapter 8 for details.
ii. Mary Ann McNEIL
Mary Ann BELL.Courtesy: Lynne Sanders.
Mary Ann McNEIL was born on 27 Jun 1859 in Taree, NSW. Mary Ann died in Laurieton, NSW, on 8 Nov 1935; she was 76. She was buried in the Laurieton General Cemetery! She resided at Tweed Heads from about 1878, and then moved to Laurieton, NSW, where she lived until her death. Her occupations were nurse, midwife and boarding-house keeper. On 27 Jun 1878 when Mary Ann was 19, she married John BELL in Taree, NSW. John was born in 1850 in Williams River, NSW. John died in Taree, NSW, in 1919; he was 69.
Mary Ann’s headstone was most unusual! The local Laurieton Rotary Club bought her headstone, and arranged a public commemoration of her life and a dedication of her headstone about 40 years after her death. The inscription reads: "Dedicated to the memory of M.A. (Granny) Bell. Died November 8, 1935, aged 76. A "legend in her lifetime" for dedicated service as nurse, midwife and friend to the people of the Camden Haven district 1892-1935. Erected by the Rotary Club of Laurieton". See the “Australian Cemeteries” photo of this headstone. The dedication ceremony was described in a newspaper article about 52 years after her death. See the transcription below:
Mary Ann BELL’s guesthouse.Photo: courtesy of Lynne Sanders.
The "Granny Bell" Story — A Piece of Early Laurieton History.
This is the story of a remarkable woman, Mrs M.A. Bell, more affectionately known as "Granny", who was a legend in her lifetime. Born at Taree on June 27, 1859. she married John Bell in 1878 and from this union came a family of nine children: James, Norman, Anne, Janet, Mary, Roy, Elizabeth and William (the article forgot Donald).
Shortly after her marriage they settled on the Tweed River, where, for a number of years, they engaged in cane farming until her husband suffered an unfortunate accident which rendered him an invalid and they moved to Laurieton in 1892.
To supplement their earnings, and to support their large family, "Granny" conducted a boarding house and established herself as a professional nurse and midwife, and it was in this calling that she became a legend to all. It would be impossible to narrate the many things that "Granny" did in these early days, for without doctors, and the only transport being horse, buggy or boat, she was undaunted in her efforts to reach a sick bed.
She waded through flood water, crossed flooded rivers by boat, and travelled for miles in an open sulky to reach the sick, attend an accident or bringing a child into the world.
She was always among the first to arrive at a stricken household, carrying out all that was required to be done without fee or reward. "Granny" will always be remembered, not only as a professional nurse, but on who, on many occasions left her own sick bed, unselfishly spending hours with a bereaved family.
Her self-sacrice will always be remembered and cherished with feelings of grateful admiration and undying gratitude by all whom she befriended.
Mrs M. Gibson of Kendall recalls "I knew "Granny" very well and have many scars on my body from cuts and also from a fractured skull patched with horse hair, large needle and bandages for me to always remember this great woman".
There is no doubt that this strenuous and self-sacrificing labour on behalf of others had much to do with sowing the seed of the full complaint that eventually brought about her death.
In 1904, for her many good deeds she was presented with an illuminated address signed by more than 80 residents, and it was these deeds that no doubt, led the officiating Minister at her graveside in 1935 to liken "Granny" to Florence Nightingale. To pay homage to this remarkable woman, many residents, both young and old from the Camden have District and from all parts of the state attended the Laurieton Cemetery on Saturday, January 25, 1975 for the Dedication Service.
The service was conducted by the Presbyterian Minister Reverend H. Sharp, and supported by the President of Laurieton Rotary, Mr Doug Mathieson, the member for Oxley, Mr Bruce Cowan and Mr A.E. Debenham, a retired Sydney magistrate who spent many years living in Laurieton and is the author of many books, one being "Without Fear of Favour" wherein he refers to "Granny" and the wonderful work done by her in the Camden Haven.
The Leader thanks the Rotary Club of Laurieton for making this story available.
Photograph shows Mr A.E. Debenham reading an address about "Granny" Bell. Others identifiable in the picture (from right to left) Ted Vaughan, Bruce Cowan (then member for Oxley), Mr F. Norrie and Mr W. Poole (Hastings Shire Councillors). M/i) Also see: M/ii ,iii)
Descendancy Report for Mary Ann and John BELL.
- (1) John BELL
- b. 1850, Williams River, NSW.
- d. 1919, Taree, NSW.
- bur. Laurieton Presbyterian Cemetery, NSW.
- occ. cane farmer
- & Mary Ann McNEIL
- b. 27 Jun 1859, Taree, NSW.
- d. 8 Nov 1935, Laurieton, NSW.
- bur. Laurieton Presbyterian Cemetery, NSW.
- res. abt 1880, Tweed River, NSW; 1892, Laurieton, NSW.
- occ. Nurse, midwife, boarding-house keeper
- m. 27 Jun 1878, Taree, NSW.
- | (2) James Alexander BELL
- | b. 1879, Tweed River, NSW.
- | d. 1915, Petersham, NSW.
- | res. 1935, Wingham, NSW.
- | & Hannah Alberta KENNEDY
- | b. abt 1884.
- | d. 16 Dec 1966.
- | bur. 1966, Wingham General Cemetery, NSW.
- | m. 1902, Taree, NSW.
- (2) Norman BELL
- | b. 1881, Tweed River, NSW.
- | d. 1968, Newcastle, NSW.
- | res. 1935, Newcastle, NSW.
- | & Lily Catherine KIDD
- | d. 1971, Cessnock, NSW.
- | m. 1908, Taree, NSW.
- | (2) Anne McLeod BELL
- | b. 1883, Tweed River, NSW.
- | d. 22 Aug 1973, Carlingford, Sydney, NSW.
- | bur. 23 Aug 1973, Penrith General Cemetery, NSW.
- | res. 1935, Laurieton, NSW.
- | & Stanley WITCHARD
- | b. 1892, Kempsey, NSW.
- | d. 20 Oct 1960, Sydney, NSW.
- | bur. 24 Oct 1960, PresbyterianCemetery, Penrith, NSW.
- | occ. Baker, 1915; Pastrycook, 1930; Baker, 1936; Fruiterer, 1920; Baker, 1924.
- | m. 1913, Taree, NSW.
- | (2) Janet BELL
- | b. 1885, Tweed River, NSW.
- | res. 1935, Bangalow, NSW.
- | & John JOHNSON
- | m. 1910, Murwillumbah, NSW.
- | (2) Leslie Donald Roy (Donald) BELL
- | b. 1887, Tweed River, NSW.
- | d. 1940, Port Macquarie, NSW.
- | res. 1935, Laurieton, NSW.
- | & Margaret F. SWAN
- | b. 19 Sep 1913, Comboyne, NSW.
- | d. 26 Feb 2000, Tamworth, NSW.
- | m. 1933, Taree, NSW.
- | (2) Mary Henrietta BELL
- | b. 1890, Murwillumbah, NSW.
- | d. 24 Mar 1958, Taree, NSW.
- | bur. Laurieton, NSW.
- | & Thomas Robert McLENNAN
- | b. 1886
- | d. 9 Feb 1959, Port Macquarie, NSW.
- | bur. Laurieton, NSW.
- | m. 1914, Taree, NSW.
- | (2) Roy McNeil BELL
- | b. 1895, Taree, NSW.
- | d. 3 Jun 1956, Taree, NSW.
- | bur. Laurieton, NSW.
- | res. 1935, Laurieton, NSW.
- | & Alice (Allie) GILL
- | b. 1901
- | d. 19 Aug 1990.
- | bur. Laurieton, NSW.
- | m. 1921, Taree, NSW.
- | (2) Wilhelmina Elizabeth BELL
- | b. 1897, Taree, NSW.
- | res. 1935, Cessnock, NSW.
- | & James John WELLS
- | d. 1941, Newtown, NSW.
- | m. 1929, Taree, NSW.
- | (2) William Allen BELL
- | b. 12 Apr 1898, Laurieton, NSW.
- | d. 2 Jul 1959, Rosebery, Sydney, NSW.
- | bur. Botany, Sydney, NSW.
- | res. 1935, Sydney, NSW.
- | & Jessie Sarah READY
- | b. 30 May 1892, Redfern, NSW.
- | d. 18 Dec 1971, Lakemba, Sydney, NSW.
- | m. 15 Feb 1923, Redfern, NSW.
iii. John McNEIL
John McNEIL was born on 30 April 1860 at Redbank, Manning River, NSW. John was accidentally drowned at Belbora, NSW, on 12 Jun 1930; he was aged 70. He was buried on 24 Jun 1930 in the Presbyterian Section of Krambach cemetery, NSW. In 1898 when John was 38, he married Louisa G. ALDER, daughter of William ALDER & Sarah SERGEANT, in Taree NSW. Louisa was born in 1882, and was thought to have died in about 1905, at the age of 23. No record of her death or details of her children has been found… perhaps she left her husband.
- They had the following children:
- i. Evelyn A. (1900-) |
- ii. Azel (1902-) |
- iii. Clorine M. (1904-) |
- iv. Edward S. (1907-) |
John’s brother Neil McNEIL gave evidence at the inquest into John’s death, which gives insight into how John lived at that time. He said JO/i) :
"… deceased was his brother. He had seen him alive about 16th March at Taree. He was in good health. Deceased was 70 years of age. He was a married man and his wife was dead." As far as witness knew, "he had no family. He lost his wife 25 years ago (giving an unconfirmed date of death of Louisa of abt 1905). He was drawing the pension and resided on Robert McRae’s property at Belbora, near Krambach". ... then refers to "communicating with his sister-in-law Mrs Geo Martin of Krambach".... also later he was told by his “nephew (Lal McNeil) that the body had been found".
The local paper gave the details JO/ii) :
"Mr John McNEILL, brother to Mr. Neil McNeil of Taree, met his death under tragic circumstances at Belbora, a few miles beyond Krambach, on the Gloucester road. It appears that on Wednesday, 11 June, the late Mr McNeil went into Krambach and stayed the night. The next afternoon at about 4:30 he boarded a service car and was driven back to Belbora. He left the car in the vicinity of Mr W.P. Easton’s property at Belbora, with the intention of walking to his camp, at Mr Bob McRae’s property, where he had been working. It was dark when he set off for his camp and that was the last time he was seen alive. His camp was about a mile away from where he left the car.
When his absence was noted, some anxiety was felt for his safety, particularly when he did not turn up in a few days. Police and search parties of civilians looked for him in vain until Monday afternoon last, when his body was discovered by Mr. White, a farmer, in a dam, which was surrounded by reeds. This spot is some distance off the track he should have taken to reach his camp. but it is thought that he may have gone out of his way to visit an old friend.
On Sunday a band of about 80 searchers, including district police and about 20 horsemen, combed the locality in the vicinity of the camp. but found no trace of the missing man. The dam was not thoroughly searched until Monday, when the body was discovered.
Deceased was 70 years of age and was well known on the Manning and Wallamba. Mrs Foster, senr., of Taree is a sister.
On Tuesday morning the Coroner (Mr Hubert Flett) accompanied by Sgt. Reilly, went to Krambach to hold an inquest, and after hearing the evidence the Coroner returned a verdict of accidental death by drowning.
On Tuesday afternoon the remains were interred in the Presbyterian portion of the Krambach cemetery. Mr. S.A. Bridge carried out the funeral arrangements."
iv. Allan McNEIL
Allan McNEIL was born in 1862 in the Manning River District. Allan died in Taree, NSW, on 13 Sep 1927; he was 65. He was buried in the Krambach Cemetery, NSW. In 1885 when Allan was 23, he married Jannet / Jeanett / Janet /EASTON, youngest daughter of Robert EASTON (15 Oct 1811—7 Mar 1896) & Elizabeth FROUDE (11 Feb 1829—2 Apr 1905), in Taree. Jannet was born on 1 Mar 1868 in the Manning River District and died in the Manning River District Hospital, Taree, NSW, on 27 Sep 1950 at the age of 82, and was buried on 29 Sep 1950 in Krambach Presbyterian Cemetery, NSW.
Frost A/ii) devotes chapter 11 of his book to Allan and Jannet and their family, with many photos. He says: "Jannet grew up at Dry Creek, and is listed amongst the children enrolled at Larry’s Flat school when it opened in 1880. Shortly after their marriage, Allan and Jannet bought a property just west of Krambach called "City View", where they spent the rest of their lives. This was a mixed farm, raising pigs, poultry and cattle. As well as running the farm, Allan drove the royal mail coach between Gloucester and Taree for many years. He also had a four horse waggon which he used to carry supplies to the Krambach area from Bullock wharf."
Janet McNEIL’s obituary A/i) says:
"Obituary Mrs Janet McNEIL. The Krambach district lost one of its oldest identities on Wednesday night when Mrs Janet McNEIL passed away in the M.R.D. Hospital. On the previous Monday week she broke her hip when she fell at her home. Mrs McNEIL was a member of the well-known EASTON family, her parents being the late Mr and Mrs Robert EASTON, of Dry Creek, Krambach. She was born at Krambach 82 years ago, and spent practically all her life in that district. Her husband, the late Allan McNEIL, passed away 23 years ago. The subject of this notice was held in the highest esteem. She possessed a kindly, hospitable nature, and was always ready to help her neighbours when sickness or other misfortunes befell them. The following children survive her: Messrs. William, Allan, Harold and Horace McNEIL (all of Krambach), Stanley (Lambton), Christina (Mrs McRAE, Belbora), Elizabeth (Mrs Reg CLINCH, Wingham) and May (Mrs McBAIN, Mt George). One son, George, of Krambach, predeceased her. The only surviving member of her own family is a brother, Mr James EASTON, of Gloucester. The following brothers and sisters predeceased her: Robert EASTON (Burrell Creek), George (Brown’s Creek, Firefly), William (Belbora), Helen (Mrs Thomas PATERSON, Larry’s Flat), Ann (Mrs Geo. MARTIN (Krambach), Susan (Mrs Don CAMERON, Wang Wauk) and Elizabeth (Mrs William PATERSON, Krambach). At 11 a.m. on Friday a service was conducted at the Presbyterian Church at Krambach, following which the remains were laid to rest in the Krambach cemetery. Rev. P.E. Lucock conducted the services at the church and graveside, and Mr W.T. Howard carried out the funeral arrangements."
Descendancy Report for Allan and Jannet McNEIL.
- (1) Allan McNEIL
- b. 1862, Manning River.
- d. 13 Sep 1927, Taree, NSW.
- bur. Krambach Cemetery, NSW.
- & Jannet (Jeanett) (Janet) EASTON
- b. 1 Mar 1868, Manning River, NSW.
- d. 27 Sep 1950, Manning River District Hospital, Taree, NSW.
- bur. 29 Sep 1950, Krambach Cemetery, NSW.
- m. 1885, Taree
- | (2) Jeanett (Janet) Christina McNEIL
- | b. 20 Feb 1886, Taree, NSW.
- | d. 11 Jun 1974.
- | bur. Krambach Cemetery, NSW.
- | res. 1950, Belbora, NSW.
- | & Robert Duncan McRAE
- | b. abt 1885.
- | d. 26 Jun 1945.
- | bur. Krambach Cemetery, NSW.
- | m. 1911, Taree, NSW.
- | (2) Elizabeth McNEIL
- | b. 16 Jun 1888, Taree NSW.
- | d. 17 Aug 1975, NSW.
- | bur. Wingham General Cemetery, NSW.
- | res. 1950, Wingham, NSW.
- | & Reginald CLINCH
- | b. abt 1891.
- | d. 8 Mar 1984.
- | bur. Wingham General Cemetery, NSW.
- | m. 1912, Taree, NSW.
- | (2) George R. McNEIL
- | b. 1890, Taree, NSW.
- | d. 1917, France, in WWI.
- | (2) William McNEIL
- | b. 5 Jul 1892, Taree, NSW.
- | d. Jul 1976, NSW.
- | res. 1950, Krambach, NSW.
- | (2) Allan (Lal) McNEIL
- | b. 26 Nov 1894, Stroud, NSW.
- | d. 25 Apr 1969, Taree, NSW.
- | res. 1950, Krambach, NSW.
- | (2) Victoria May (May) McNEIL
- | b. 10 May 1897, Stroud, NSW.
- | d. 21 Oct 1983.
- | res. 1950, St George, NSW.
- | & Malcolm McBAIN
- | m. 1950, North Sydney, NSW.
- | (2) Harold (Kruger) McNEIL
- | b. 17 Nov 1899, Stroud, NSW.
- | res. 1950, Krambach, NSW.
- | (2) Horace Edgar McNEIL
- | b. 10 Aug 1907
- | d. 31 Jan 1999.
- | bur. Krambach Cemetery, NSW.
- | res. 1950, Krambach, NSW.
- | & Dorothy Grace SPOONER
- | b. abt 1912
- | d. 19 Feb 1977
- | bur. Krambach Cemetery, NSW.
- | m. 1948, Taree, NSW.
- | (2) Stanley McNEIL
- | b. 14 Nov 1902, Stroud, NSW.
- | d. 24 Aug 1977, NSW.
- | res. 1950, Lambton, NSW.
- | & Jean FARLEY
v. Neil McNEIL
Neil McNEIL was born about 1865 in Redbank, near Taree, NSW. Neil died in Chatham NSW, on 7 Jun 1946; he was 81 and was buried on 8 Jul 1946 in Presbyterian Section, Krambach Cemetery NSW. Neil was employed as a labourer with Taree Municipal Council. In 1892 when Neil was 27, he married Mary Jane MARTIN, daughter of George Joash MARTIN (28 Nov 1843—28 Sept 1914) & Ann EASTON (22 Apr 1846—9 Aug 1926), in Krambach, NSW. Mary was born on 30 Aug 1870 at Burrell Creek, Manning Valley District, NSW. Mary Jane died on 9 Mar 1953 in the Manning River District Hospital; she was 82 and was buried on 11 Mar 1953 in Krambach Presbyterian Cemetery, NSW.
Frost N/ii) described Neil's employment: "… worked as a driver of the mail coach for the contractor, John H. Single. The contract was for the conveyance of mail by a four horse coach between Taree, Gloucester and Tinonee for the sum of £300 per year. In later years, Neil worked at the lime quarry in Taree."
Neil’s obituary N/i) said :
"Mr Neil McNEILL. An old identity of the Taree district, in the person of Mr. Neil McNeil, passed away at his home at Chatham at 5 a.m. on Friday. About 18 months ago he suffered a stroke. A son of the late Mr. and Mrs. John McNeil, he was born at Redbank 81 years ago and spent his boyhood there. Mr McNeil was always keenly interested in horses, and as a young man he became a drover of mail coaches; first between Raymond Terrace, Gloucester and Taree, and subsequently from Taree and Kempsey. About 53 years ago he was married to Miss Mary Jane Martin, daughter of the late Mr and Mrs George Martin, of Krambach. The first two years of their married life were spent at Krambach, and then Mr McNeil drove the Wauchope-Port Macquarie mails for about five years. He then made his home in Taree and spent the rest of his life here, the last 17 at Chatham. During his residence in Taree he worked for the Municipal Council for some years. The late Mr. McNeil possessed a bright, happy disposition, and had many warm friends in all parts of the district. He is survived by Mrs. McNeil. There were no children of the union. Mr. Alex McNeil is a brother, and the surviving sisters are Mesdames Layt (Sydney). E. Moyna (Sydney), and Thompson (Adamstown). The following brothers and sisters predeceased him: Allan and John McNeil (Krambach), Mesdames Grace Foster (Taree), M.A. Bell (Laurieton) and A. Anderson (Sydney). The funeral will move from Mr. W.T. Howard’s private chapel at noon today, following a short service for the Krambach cemetery, where the interment service is timed to commence at 1 p.m. Rev. M.C. Ramsay will conduct the services."
vi. Annie McNEIL
Annie (Ann) McNEIL was born on 10 Sep 1865. Annie died in Randwick, NSW, in 1937; she was 71. On 23 Jan 1884 when Annie (Ann) was 18, she married William Leighton ANDERSON, son of James ANDERSON & Elizabeth LEIGHTON, in St Paul’s Church, Taree, NSW. William was born on 21 Mar 1859 in Saint Nicholas, Aberdeen, Scotland, and died in Lidcombe State Hospital & Home, Lidcombe, NSW, on 6 Jan 1932; he was 72. William was buried on 8 Jan 1932 in the Presbyterian Cemetery Rookwood, NSW.
In 1902, Annie’s younger sister Elizabeth Sarah married William John THOMSON at the "Home of William Leighton Anderson, Gundary, Moruya, NSW". When William ANDERSON died in 1932, he lived at Ultimo, NSW. His occupation at various stages was given as master mariner, old-age pensioner.
Descendancy Report for Annie and William Leighton ANDERSON.
- (1) William Leighton ANDERSON
- b. 21 Mar 1859, Saint Nicholas, Aberdeen, Scotland.
- d. 6 Jan 1932, Lidcombe State Hospital & Home, Lidcombe, NSW.
- bur. 8 Jan 1932, Presbyterian Cemetery Rookwood, NSW.
- occ. Master mariner, old-age pensionerin 1932.
- & Annie (Ann) McNEIL
- b. 10 Sep 1865
- d. 1937, Randwick, NSW.
- m. 23 Jan 1884, St Paul’s Church, Taree, NSW.
- | (2) William James ANDERSON AA/ii)
- | b. Nov 1884, Wingham, NSW.
- | d. May 1958, Little Bay, NSW.
- | & Mary DRYER
- | b. abt 1886
- | d. Jun 1937, Little Bay, NSW.
- | m. 5 Feb 1912, Sydney, NSW..
- | (2) Janet E. ANDERSON
- | b. 1886, Taree, NSW.
- | (2) Norman McLean ANDERSON
- | b. 1888, Taree, NSW.
- | d. 1968, Newtown, NSW.
- | & Blanch BYRNES
- | m. 1910, Sydney, NSW.
- | (2) Florence A. ANDERSON
- | b. 1890, Waterloo, NSW.
- | (2) Annie May ANDERSON
- | b. abt 18 Jun 1891, Newcastle, NSW.
- | d. 8 Jul 1893, 279 Crown Rd, Ultimo, Sydney, NSW.
- | (2) Stanley W. ANDERSON
- | b. 1893, Wickham, NSW.
- | & Mary A. DEWAR
- | b. 1895, Sydney, NSW.
- | d. 1930, Annandale, Sydney, NSW.
- | m. 1916, Sydney, NSW.
- | (2) Albert A. ANDERSON
- | b. 8 Apr 1895, 279 Crown Rd, Ultimo, Sydney, NSW.
- | d. 1963, Hurstville, NSW.
- | & Priscilla AYTON
- | m. 1917, Sydney, NSW.
- | (2) Irene Nellie Leighton ANDERSON AA/i)
- | b. 11 Aug 1901, Moruya, NSW.
- | d. 28 Jan 1994, Mayfield, NSW.
- | & Thomas Bernard GRAINGER
- | occ. Pastry Cook in 1918
- | m. 21 Feb 1918, Methodist Parsonage, Merewether, Newcastle, NSW.
vii. Janet McNEIL
Janet LAYT (née McNEIL),Courtesy: Eileen Willis.
Janet McNEIL was born on 17 Sep 1867 in Purfleet, NSW. Janet died in 3 Paine St, Kogarah, NSW, on 6 Jun 1949; she was 81, and was buried on 8 Jun 1949 in the C of E section of the Woronora Cemetery, Sutherland, NSW. On 8 Nov 1898 when Janet was 31, she married Alfred Ernest LAYT, son of Frederick William LAYT & Susannah ASKEW, at Castle Mountain, Quirindi, NSW. Alfred was born on 3 May 1871 in 294 Botany Rd, Waterloo NSW. Alfred died in 3 Paine St, Kogarah, NSW., on 2 Mar 1944; he was 72. He enlisted on 2 Apr 1917 in the WWI at age 45, in A.I.F. 1st Pioneer Battalion. Alfred lived at 86 Goodsell St, Newtown, NSW, on 2 Apr 1902 and also 5 Apr 1917. Alfred’s occupations included farmer, carpenter, tile layer.
Descendancy Report for Janet and Alfred Ernest LAYT.
- (1) Alfred Ernest LAYT
- b. 3 May 1871, 294 Botany Rd, Waterloo NSW.
- d. 2 Mar 1944, 3 Paine St, Kogarah, NSW.
- occ. Farmer, Carpenter, Tile layer.
- & Janet McNEIL
- b. 17 Sep 1867, Purfleet, NSW.
- d. 6 Jun 1949, 3 Paine St, Kogarah, NSW.
- bur. 8 Jun 1949, Woronora Cemetery, Sutherland
- m. 8 Nov 1898, Castle Mountain, Quirindi, NSW.
- (2) Norman Eric LAYT
- | b. 1899, Quirindi, NSW.
- | d. 27 Sep 1985, Noraville, NSW.
- & Dorothy L.M. ROSENBERG
- | m. 1924, Redfern, NSW.
- | (2) Jane Webster (Jean) LAYT
- | b. 1900, Balmain South, NSW.
- | d. 8 Jan 1985, Sans Souci, NSW.
- | & William TOWNSEND
- | m. 1921, Newtown, NSW.
- | (2) Winifred S. LAYT
- | b. 1904, Quirindi, NSW.
- | d. 1908, Newtown, NSW.
- | (2) Irene Merle LAYT
- | b. 1906, Quirindi, NSW.
- | d. 14 Jan 1907, Quirindi, NSW.
- | (2) Edith Lilian (Amy) LAYT*
- | b. 1908, St Peters, NSW.
- | d. 19 Mar 1980, Arncliffe, NSW.
- | & Roy M. COOPER
- | m. 1930, Newtown, NSW.
- | (2) Edith Lilian (Amy) LAYT*
- | b. 1908, St Peters, NSW.
- | d. 19 Mar 1980, Arncliffe, NSW.
- | & William George BLACK
- | (2) Alfred Edgar LAYT
- | b. 11 Jan 1912, ‘Clifton’ Alice Ave, Newtown, NSW.
- | d. 26 Nov 1965, Jannali, NSW.
- | & Alice Eileen McCLUSKEY
- | m. 16 Aug 1937, Rockdale, NSW.
- | (2) Ernest Frederick Lawrence LAYT
- | b. 25 Jul 1914, Newtown, NSW.
- | d. 20 Aug 1959, Sans Souci, NSW.
- | & Doris Ethel May KINNEAR
- | m. 1939, Rockdale, NSW.
viii. Eliza McNEIL
Eliza McNEIL was born on 25 Dec 1869 in Taree, NSW. Eliza died in Bondi, NSW., in Jun 1958; she was 88, and was buried on 25 Jun 1958 in the Eastern Suburbs Crematorium, NSW. On 26 Dec 1888 when Eliza was 19, she first married James ANDERSON, son of James ANDERSON & Elizabeth LEIGHTON, in the "Residence of Delamore Wynter", Taree NSW. Delamore was Eliza’s stepfather (since 1882) and "Janet Wynter, mother of the bride, gave consent to the marriage".
James was born on 21 Aug 1863 in Saint Nicholas, Aberdeen, Scotland. He died in 13 Cook St, Lewisham, NSW, on 16 Oct 1924; he was 61, and was buried in the Presbyterian Cemetery Rookwood, NSW. James immigrated on 5 Jun 1885 to Sydney, NSW on the Ship ‘Bombay’; he was 21. He was variously employed as a painter & decorator in Scotland, and then as a dredge employee on the Wallamba River near Taree. Eliza and James subsequently divorced on 20 Feb 1923 and James died shortly afterwards. In 1923 when Eliza was 53, she second married Joseph MOYNA in Newtown NSW. In 1935 E/i) Eliza MOYNA lived in Brisbane, Qld.
Descendancy Report for Eliza & James ANDERSON, then & Joseph MOYNA.
- (1) James ANDERSON
- b. 21 Aug 1863, Saint Nicholas, Aberdeen, Scotland.
- d. 16 Oct 1924, 13 Cook St, Lewisham, NSW.
- bur. Presbyterian Cemetery Rookwood, NSW.
- occ. Painter & decorator in Scotland. Dredge employee on the Wallamba River near Taree.
- & Eliza McNEIL*
- b. 25 Dec 1869, Taree, NSW.
- d. Jun 1958, Bondi, NSW.
- bur. 25 Jun 1958, Eastern Suburbs Crematorium, NSW.
- res. 1935, Brisbane, Qld, 1946, Sydney NSW.
- m. 26 Dec 1888, Residence of Delamore Wynter, Taree NSW.
- div. 20 Feb 1923.
- | (2) Eric Thomas Oakes ANDERSON
- | b. 24 Jun 1894, Charlton St, Wickham, NSW.
- | d. 21 Mar 1973, Mt Olivet Hospital, Brisbane, Qld.
- | & Florence Eileen WILSON
- | b. 4 Sep 1898, Steel St, Hamilton, Newcastle, NSW.
- | d. 13 May 1980, Mt Gravatt Nursing Centre, Brisbane, Qld.
- | m. 24 Jan 1920, Baptist Tabenacle, Newcastle, NSW.
- | (2) Janet Elizabeth L. ANDERSON
- | b. 25 Dec 1889, Taree, NSW.
- | d. 14 Jun 1942, Masonic Hospital, Ashfield, Sydney, NSW.
- | bur. Methodist Section Rookwood Cemetery, NSW.
- | & George Thompson ERSKINE
- | b. abt 1884
- | d. 13 Apr 1972
- | bur. Methodist Section Rookwood Cemetery, NSW.
- | m. 1914, Newcastle, NSW.
- | (2) Mina ANDERSON
- | b. 30 Mar 1892, Forster, NSW.
- | d. 4 Jun 1987, late of Bondi, NSW.
- | & Erwin Max KEEN (formerly KAISER)
- | b. 1 Mar 1898.
- | d. 7 Aug 1948, 65 Wellington St, Bondi, Sydney, NSW.
- | m. 24 Sep 1923
- | (2) Nellie Allen ANDERSON
- | b. 30 Aug 1896, Newcastle, NSW.
- | d. 1971, Sydney, NSW.
- | & Walter Maxwell SPARKES
- | b. abt 1904
- | m. 30 Aug 1924, St Stephen’s C of E, Newtown, Sydney, NSW.
- | (2) Roy ANDERSON
- | b. 1899, Newcastle, NSW.
- | bur. 10 Jul 1899, C of E Section, Sandgate Cemetery, Newcastle, NSW.
- (2) Eliza McNEIL*
- b. 25 Dec 1869, Taree, NSW.
- d. Jun 1958, Bondi, NSW.
- bur. 25 Jun 1958, Eastern Suburbs Crematorium, NSW.
- res. 1935, Brisbane, Qld, 1946, Sydney NSW.
- & Joseph MOYNA
- m. 1923, Newtown NSW.
ix. Elizabeth Sarah McNEIL
Elizabeth Sarah McNEIL was born about 1873. Elizabeth died in Hamilton, NSW, in 1948; she was 75. On 26 Feb 1902 when Elizabeth Sarah was 29, she married William John THOMSON, son of Henry THOMSON (6 Aug 1846-4 Jul 1899) & Eliza HANCOCK (30 Aug 1846-16 Jul 1928), in the "Home of William Leighton Anderson", Gundary, Moruya, NSW. William was born in 1875 in Araluen, NSW.
Descendancy Report for Elizabeth Sarah and William John THOMSON.
- (1) William John THOMSON
- b. 1875, Araluen, NSW.
- & Elizabeth Sarah McNEIL
- b. c1873.
- d. 1948, Hamilton, NSW.
- res. 1935, Hamilton, NSW; 1944, Mayfield, NSW; 1946, Adamstown, NSW.
- m. 26 Feb 1902, Home of William Leighton Anderson, Gundary, Moruya, NSW
- | (2) Eliza J. THOMSON
- | b. 1902, Moruya, NSW.
- | (2) Walter W.H.H. THOMSON
- | b. 1904, Sydney, NSW.
- | (2) Eric James THOMSON
- | b. 1908, Moruya, NSW.
- | d. 1971, Newcastle, NSW.
x. Alexander (Alick) McNEIL
Alexander (Alick) McNEIL was born in 1875 in the Manning River District, NSW. Alexander died in Liverpool, Sydney, NSW., in 1948; he was 73. The 1935 obituary of Alex’s sister Mary Ann said he lived in Krambach NSW; and the 1944 obituary of Alex’s sister, Grace, said that he lived at Chatham.
xi. Priscilla McNEIL
Priscilla Harriet McNEIL was born on 26 Nov 1876 at Taree, NSW. Priscilla died about the age of one year and 4 months on 11 Apr 1878, at Taree, NSW. Her death was due to diarrhoea for 3 weeks, now preventible by modern medicine. The "medical attendant" who signed the death certificate was D. Wynter, who was the Taree pharmacist with some medical training in England. Delamore WYNTER married Janet McNEIL almost 5 years later.
Sources:
J—— Janet McNEIL (née McLEAN)…
J/i) Judy Waters. Another John McNEIL in Kempsey. Pers. comm. 2002.
J/ii) Death certificate for 65 year-old John McNEIL’s father-in-law John McLEAN on 17 Aug 1871, reg# 4159/1871.
J/iii) Death certificate for John McNEIL’s 11 year-old brother-in-law Allan McLEAN on 22 Dec 1861, reg# 3283/1861.
J/iv) Death certificate for 65 year-old John McNEIL’s 34 year-old brother-in-law Alex McLEAN on 8 Dec 1871, reg# 4164/1871.
J/v) Obituary: Janet WYNTER. Moruya Examiner, Moruya, NSW; 10 Jul, 1915; 2.
Kindly provided by Kate Boyce, Research Officer of the Moruya & District Historical Society.
J/vi) Family bible of Janet McLEAN / McNEIL / WYNTER. Held by Penelope Luck.
J/vii) Lea-Scarlett, Errol. Roots and Branches: Ancestry for Australians. Fontana; South Australia 1979; 98-99.
J/viii) Marriage Janet McNEIL & Delamore WYNTER. Reg# 1882/001903. Registrar of BDM, NSW.
J/ix) Birth Grace McNEIL. *Reg# 1856/7249. Registrar of BDM, NSW.
J/x) Death John McNEIL. *Reg#1882/8881. Registrar of BDM, NSW.
J/xi) Birth John McNEIL [Jnr]. *Reg#1860/013345. Registrar of BDM, NSW.
J/xii) Pictou, Nova Scotia. Wikipedia.
J/xiii) Probate: John McNEIL. Date of death 16 Nov 1902. Ref# 28218/SC001181; NSW State Records.
M—— Mary Ann BELL (née McNEIL)…
M/i) The "Granny Bell" story. The Laurieton(??) Leader; date unknown.
Newpapers published in Laurieton include the Laurieton Leader (15 Jun-1 Jul 1987), then the Local Leader (12 Aug-25 Oct 1987). Kindly provided by Lynne Sanders.
M/ii) Obituary: M.A. Bell. Northern Champion; 20 Nov 1935.
Note: This 1935 obituary contains the similar biographical material (and wording!) as the 1987(?) article transcribed above. Additional material in the obituary was the names and locations of Mary Ann’s children and siblings.
M/iii) Debenham, A.E. Without fear or favour: the biography of a career. Edwards & Shaw, Sydney; 1966; 22.
JO—— John McNEIL…
JO/i) Accidental Drowning. The Late John McNeil. Evidence at Inquest. Northern Champion; 28 Jun 1930.
JO/ii) Obit of John McNEIL: "Tragedy at Krambach. Man dies in the bush." Northern Champion; 25 Jun 1930.
A—— Allan McNEIL…
A/i) Obituary Mrs Janet McNEIL.Northern Champion; 30 Sep 1950.
A/ii) Frost, A.K. Paterson Easton family history. Paterson Easton reunion committee, Sydney; 1985; 153-165.
N—— Neil McNEIL…
N/i) Obituary: Mr Neil McNEILL. Northern Champion; 8 June 1946.
N/ii) Frost, A.K. Paterson Easton family history. Paterson Easton reunion committee, Sydney; 1985; 124, 126.
E—— Eliza ANDERSON (née McNEIL)…
E/i) Obituary: M.A. Bell. Northern Champion; 20 Nov 1935.
AA—— Annie ANDERSON (née McNEIL)…
AA/i) Pers. Comm. Belinda Allen. Irene Nellie Leighton ANDERSON family. 2012.
AA/ii) E-mail from Janet Lynch to Stuart Gregory’s Mid North Coast Pioneers website. William James ANDERSON family. 2011.
Acknowledgements: Thanks to Lynne Sanders (BELL family) who forwarded some valuable photos, and information. Gloria Toohey, Research Officer of the Manning Wallamba FHS was most helpful in obtaining copies of newspaper articles. Thanks to Eric Wilson (ANDERSON family) and Eileen WILLIS (LAYT family)… the opportunity of exchanging certificates and information was greatly appreciated, and provided the motivation to complete the task. Most recently, Jan Easton has kindly sent much information on the Allan and Neil McNEIL families.
Contact
It would be great if descendants of the McNEILs, or people with knowledge of this family, could make contact with me. See the e-mail link at the bottom of this page.
The Story Continues
- Chapter 10: associated family— McLEANs.
or… - Appendices to the FOSTER Web Site A set of Appendices (1-3) to the FOSTER Web site including ‘Report of the Launceston Marine Board Feb 4, 1879’, George FOSTER’s ‘Testimonial at his Retirement’, Poem: ‘Sorrow on the Sea’.